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    Default Standing in the Gap for Zulutraders

    Based on

    Out of Chaos Brilliant Stars Are Born

    I wish you luck and hope you post more about your system ASAP.
    Feel free to start your own discussion in the Signals forum or
    the Zulu Trade Signals forum
    I wish to use this link to start a thread I called standing in the Gap for Zulutraders.

    My method of trade is based on chaos theory (no mathematics) only CCI indicator to identify orderliness
    and disorderliness or (righteousness and unrighteousness) among traders (primary market participants).
    Simple if market participants are righteous, I partake in the market with them. If they are unrighteous I stay aside because that is what the Bible says.

    There are seasons to sow and harvest. Any contrary behaviour when traders are supposed to be sowing
    e.g withdrawing from market when it is not yet time - like panic sell off, is a sign or indicator of unrighteousness, disorderliness. Also when participants are supposed to be harvesting but entry the market is also unrighteousness or recklessness. These crowd behaviour are identifiable technically from the chart. The world's techniques were designed to commit common sins to breedsgreeds and temptations to enter market at wrong times because of our belief that market will continue to grow forever. No. God make room for time to grow and take harvest.

    Cycle of God is basically measure in 1 week - a week also have subdivision or fractal of days. In all, God allowed us to operate on yearly cycle as grand cycle or supper cycle in Elliot Waves. In this supper cycle there are months to sow and allow investment to keep growing until december for profit taking.
    The same is true for fractal of weeks and days. This is the general Providence of God and His covenant with man in Genesis 8:22. To sow without harvesting is also unrigtheous and a sin.

    I will not be able to explain the entire body of knowledge here that took me +3years to observe and docummented.

    Why am I looking for Zulutraders.

    There are so many reasons. I discovered that zulutrade offered me possibilities to show the world that the Bible is not old for financial trading both in identifying profitable trades from the chart, holding on to trades, taking profit and managing risk and managing clients money.

    It is more profitable to trade good for zulutraders for several reasons - as services, and to show that we can be the Light of the world, and more importantly for profit. One good trader is capable of telling 100 good traders because righteous traders are scarse to find. In the end, I hope to use the technology to galvnised hundreds to 1000s of followers or even millions of followers around the world. The market is huge and profitable financially and sowing the seed of God to people's hearts.

    It is my wish to use God's knowledge to bring smile and hope to people's faces and hearts, in the end, many may know God.

    To train people to be zulutrade signal provider.

    - I am not forcing my training on any person, but I could provide signals and trade recommendations to members to use to trade and feed to zulutrade be their own signal provider. This is the simplest way instead of following other people who do not know market better than you. There is money in the concept of zulutrade just earning few rebates per day for say 30 followers is a decent income. Many cannot make that kind of money trading for themselves per month.

    This service will be based on close memberships and a fee of $50 per month
    I will give directions on three instruments without technicalities. I am prepared to host the service under a forum like this because they already have the knowledge of zulutrade and are very motivated about it. Also I will be prepared to share the revenue to support this forum - my interest is not primarily on profit though I need to be very profitable in the long run that is what the Bible says - we must show profit in all things, and I am not ashamed of following Biblical concepts in this way.

    Eventually if people are successful with my trades they would rather like to learn by taking any of my training package. If they don't they can stick to following me or just subscribe to the membership section of $50 per month. One way or the other they become part of standing in the gap for me, while I also stand in the gap for them - it is a win-win situation.

    On holding trades - I do not hold trades for more than a cycle a day or 1 week. I've actually put in place a manual everyone to follow and should read and use it to setup their account - I called the idea "can two walk together unless they agreed." This ensure that your losses are not more than 35pips in bad days.

    Small losses are acceptable even by Jesus Christ - it is unrealistic and unrighteous for people to think there should not be losses - risk are there even in the Bible, but it said we should be able to calculate the cost before going into any venture.

    My zulutrade account is marketchaos.co.za

    But I would suggest each person to go through my set up recommendations, and give me a chance for both of us to make profit together.

    Your comments are welcome. You can ask me anything about my results and losses, and about membership subscription and how you think it is feasible. It is still benefiticial to share my ideas in this way with anyone and of cause to support the forum that allowed me to share my ideas to other people as well.

    Thank you.

    If you point your cursor to my profile you will discover this setup manual. This will show you how I trade and why it is safe to subscribe all of your zulutrade accounts to my signal services.
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    /.I'll be a follower. What is your Zulu Account name? Is this you http://www.zulutrade.com/TradeHistor....aspx?pid=8941

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    [QUOTE=whitley;19137]/.I'll be a follower. What is your Zulu Account name? Is this you forexforums.zulutrade.com /TradeHistoryIndividual.aspx?pid=8941/QUOTE]

    Thanks for very much. yes it is. marketchaos.co.za

    Information to note: I have just closed out a trade I am still supposed to hold this is because a new follower with 1k mini account could not setup his account to follow me: This is what zulutrade said

    "zulutrader tells me the margin meter is also influenced by the signal provider --- that you have deep drawdowns so i would not be able to fully trade your system unless i had more money --- so i told them i am just risking 35 pips --- but that = 35 bucks which is approx 3.5% risk on each trade...
    so confusing this set up is --- maybe need to rewrite your set up as it does not work correctly with 1000$

    I could not trade $10 out of $1000 for this guy,

    I would suggest anyone having 1k equity down should stick with micro lot.

    Before following me, please get my set up manual by click on fxbroker's profile, and then click on my home page. I cannot post links at t his stage inside my post.

    Those following with demo account sorry for closing the trade at that huge loss . Luckily it did not affect live account traders as no one was trading it.

    I think this type of dialogue between signal provider and his/her followers good to keep every one abreast on why a trade is close out or not.

    But the reason zulutrade gave is weired a risk of 3.5% is not too high on 1k
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    Default Welcome Month of Harvest

    Today is our first day in the mini season of harvest/reaping in a 7-year sabbath cycle.

    Objective is to sell throughout the month if we have openings. I have attached image
    for this analysis....if I have sufficient credits, otherwise I will find alternative of publishing
    the expected market structure for December for GBP/USD. Most other markets follows
    this pair.

    Before this time I already helped live followers reap 50pips.

    As at time of posting, there is disorderliness in the market, being the first day, and first
    time I am testing the validity of December being month of harvest, I will trade softly hoping
    I will gain another 50 pips for my live followers.

    If you are using demo to test please get the manual from profile section to set your demo
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    [QUOTE=fxbroker;19143]
    Quote Originally Posted by whitley View Post
    /.I'll be a follower. What is your Zulu Account name? Is this you forexforums.zulutrade.com /TradeHistoryIndividual.aspx?pid=8941/QUOTE]

    Thanks for very much. yes it is. marketchaos.co.za

    Information to note: I have just closed out a trade I am still supposed to hold this is because a new follower with 1k mini account could not setup his account to follow me: This is what zulutrade said

    "zulutrader tells me the margin meter is also influenced by the signal provider --- that you have deep drawdowns so i would not be able to fully trade your system unless i had more money --- so i told them i am just risking 35 pips --- but that = 35 bucks which is approx 3.5% risk on each trade...
    so confusing this set up is --- maybe need to rewrite your set up as it does not work correctly with 1000$

    I could not trade $10 out of $1000 for this guy,

    I would suggest anyone having 1k equity down should stick with micro lot.

    Before following me, please get my set up manual by click on fxbroker's profile, and then click on my home page. I cannot post links at t his stage inside my post.

    Those following with demo account sorry for closing the trade at that huge loss . Luckily it did not affect live account traders as no one was trading it.

    I think this type of dialogue between signal provider and his/her followers good to keep every one abreast on why a trade is close out or not.

    But the reason zulutrade gave is weired a risk of 3.5% is not too high on 1k
    I agree it is very confusing using their demo accounts when its saying you can use no less than 10 to 999 lots, even when you use a mini account, but what's the point of having a mini account if you have to trade 10 minis = 1 full lot at a time?

    Silly if you ask me. But like you said most likely a micro account is the way to go once the users go live.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post

    I agree it is very confusing using their demo accounts when its saying you can use no less than 10 to 999 lots, even when you use a mini account, but what's the point of having a mini account if you have to trade 10 minis = 1 full lot at a time?

    Silly if you ask me. But like you said most likely a micro account is the way to go once the users go live.
    Yes it is silly. With demo you can let any signal provider serve you with up to 10 to 30lots at once
    as many times as possible in a day.

    For live account with 1k, getting the system to accept 1 lot from 1k equity at 1% was not possible or easy for us to overcome. We spent so much time fiddling with different settings for 1k to fit my trading 1 standard lot.

    Here is what I did with my first mini account follower today.

    We spent most part of the day trying to fit trading sytle to my 1k follower, this cost me the following

    1 - close out a draw-down trade that was recovery fast to for potential 1k profit. I ended up with -1k

    2 - Only to discover that it was not my style of trading, 1k is too small as mini account. Any trading under 10k should use micro, my follower decline and opted we should use stoploss 35pips

    3. I tried to accomodate some trade for -35pips, this cost many losses, partly due to my wrong timing I will explain this in another post. But -35pips is unrealistic as stoploss. It is better to have a drawdown that will recover than fixed stop loss under 100pips. We ended up with -177 pips due to stop loss hits too often for this 1k followers.

    I said this because I know some people focus more on zulutrade drawdown, this is actually not important, if the trader or signal provider is sure to recover the draw down into postive area within days. The real drawdown as I know it with MT4, is the actuall loss. like today my drawdown is -177 pips lost due to in appropraite stoploss.

    (maybe some of you want to comment why traders places more emphasis on zulutrade drawdown that went back into positive)

    4. Other followers with bigger (+5k as micro account) dropped my service because of lowering stoploss which cost them actual losses

    5. The good news is that despite stoploss hits 6 times, my 1k account follower is only in deficient of $105
    or actual losses, I guess this is not a problem it will be recovered in due course.

    Any 1k or less trader who want to use micro, consider following me. I allow trade to run up to -100pips, this is not a problem as the trade recovers within a week. We need to be factual on what is possible and not possible. too many stoploss being hit is one way of wiping out account.

    I will explain this in my next post.

    I hope this throw more light on how I intend to be standing in the gap for other traders, I am still trying to find a balance between small and bigger trader.

    Though, two bigger traders dropped my service, I believe the bulk of people I intend to be standing in the gap for, are in the range of 1k.
    <-------------------------------------------------------------------->
    This is my reply to my mini account followers and maybe the reason of why we had a rough start with setting for 1k account.



    I appreciate your input greatly. You did not attached the file or screen shot of your settings.


    So if I had put 20 pips as minimum would this have worked?

    Two new issues:

    #1. Why is your settings taking all trades coming from me after your settings.

    This I could not understand. How did you set your maximum trades that was supposed to restrain me since it is not possible for me to know which trade your setting accepted on not. Do you still have any trade on?

    #2. If you lose -100pips it should not give you 10% of $1000 equity that is sucidal. It is supposed to give 2% of equity - maximum losses = $20.

    So I can now see your reasoning about my stop loss. This is where we have problem at the moment and it is the problem of trading with small equity.

    Let me explain this, if I lose 100pips for example that is 1k to me on a standard account. 1k is not 10% of 50k but 2%. So my stop loss should also return 2% proportionately to all accounts. Which means all accounts or followers should find this balance proportonately to the size of their accounts.

    Empahsis: All account should only suffer 2% loss. If my stoploss gives something higher, then the mini account should be step down to micro account. This is my argument on settings, I am not trading a mini account but a standard account. My settings need to be comfortable and universal to all accounts. This onus rest on all account holders since I do not know what they are doing.

    You see I am looking at righteousness to all type of accounts. This issue of standing in the gap is only demo traded for 50k. I do not need to keep any account open for more than even -10pips or -20pips or -30pips or even -100pips, the quicker they are spiked into losses the more trade I can execute, the more rebates I get. But this is not righteousness in the long run.

    If I do this, and I am not really standing in the gap for the poor, nor even the rich in this way but for myself. I hope this is clear on my views on managing funds for people in this way.

    I am still confused why my table did not work with zulutrade.

    1) On 1k account 1% = $10, this is the amount that should be traded. Not $100.00 per trade.

    2) 2% = $20

    If you take 2 lots of 2% you are trading $40 per trade.

    1 Pip value of $40 = $0.4, a loss of -100pip will give $40.0

    This is the same thing if I lose 1k at 100pips from a 50k, it is an acceptable risk, even 200pips. Same any lost of $40.00 on $1000 business is ok, even $80.00 is acceptable.

    if all my followers have the same mindset like me, it is fine and I am at ease to trade for them. It will be paining me to know that some people are suffering -35pips, this also part of my disorganisation yesterday.

    Current Problem:

    Zulutrade do not want to accept this settings because to them a mini lot is $100, and not $10. All mini accounts risked at least 10% of their account with their brokers, not 1%. My standard trading is based on only 2%.


    Expectations from mini account. Are mini account holders of 1k prepared to earn micro earnings with their 1k? If yes, account should be step down to micro account. Or they step it up to 10k to 50k. It is the same as what you sow is what reap my table was trying to explain.

    I still need to see your screen shot of your setting,and why it did not restrain me. It is a good headway though with pains and losses. People will gain from this experiences.

    So if you are following someone with $500,000 trading equity with $500, obviously you cannot stomach their draw downs.
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    Although, I was faced with two issues of conforming to my follower or accomodating my follower with 1k, I was also wrong in trade call, though I managed to scrap off few pips here and there.

    I was unrighteous to my trading objective which I wanted to restate here as follows:

    Investment Objectives from 2009 to 2014


    After the crash of 2008, our broad objective is to always sow into any instrument of trade starting from October 2009 when this service was started, until 2014, provided the day.

    i) it is not the end of the year, or

    ii) it is not end of the month, or

    iii) it is not the end of the week, or

    iv) it is not the end of the day.

    I was unrighteous in terms of viewing December as an all month of harvest since it is not the last month in a 7-year sabbath cycle. 2009 is just a fractal of a 7 year cycle. Within 2009, there should be more panic sell off in other words, sell should be a more dorminant activity than buying. Actually if taken the month as stand alone cycle (fractal) yesterday should actually be start of sowing instead of harvesting.

    In this regard I cut short my losing trade in GBP/JPY after London opened. There is no live account followers trading the pair. Demo subscribers sorry for this.
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    [QUOTE=fxbroker;19183]
    Quote Originally Posted by DickP View Post


    1) On 1k account 1% = $10, this is the amount that should be traded. Not $100.00 per trade.

    2) 2% = $20

    If you take 2 lots of 2% you are trading $40 per trade.

    1 Pip value of $40 = $0.4, a loss of -100pip will give $40.0

    This is the same thing if I lose 1k at 100pips from a 50k, it is an acceptable risk, even 200pips. Same any lost of $40.00 on $1000 business is ok, even $80.00 is acceptable.

    if all my followers have the same mindset like me, it is fine and I am at ease to trade for them. It will be paining me to know that some people are suffering -35pips, this also part of my disorganisation yesterday.

    Current Problem:

    Zulutrade do not want to accept this settings because to them a mini lot is $100, and not $10. All mini accounts risked at least 10% of their account with their brokers, not 1%. My standard trading is based on only 2%.


    Expectations from mini account. Are mini account holders of 1k prepared to earn micro earnings with their 1k? If yes, account should be step down to micro account. Or they step it up to 10k to 50k. It is the same as what you sow is what reap my table was trying to explain.
    I have and addendum to get a proper setting for all those with less than 1k trading equity.
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    Default Example of trade recommendations to my zulutrade followers

    Before London opened all fractals were showing sign of disorderliness and uncertainty this is more evident in fractal 1 and 2.

    The main objective for today is to buy GBP/USD when price wind down to below zero level of fractal 1 and 2.

    To sell is simply sign of panic and recklessness, though we are in month of mainly selling but the day is not right to sell.

    If I will have to sell, I only do so with a comfortable stop loss, not higher 6720
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post
    Before London opened all fractals were showing sign of disorderliness and uncertainty this is more evident in fractal 1 and 2.

    The main objective for today is to buy GBP/USD when price wind down to below zero level of fractal 1 and 2.

    To sell is simply sign of panic and recklessness, though we are in month of mainly selling but the day is not right to sell.

    If I will have to sell, I only do so with a comfortable stop loss, not higher 6720

    Just barely recovered from GBP/USD held from yesterday's panic sell. I did not expect it to go such deep
    anyway, I have done +100pips back on it.

    The trade is now -14pips of breakeven, I will close if it doesn't break this level before the news.
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    Anyone trading mini account as micro.

    I want zulutrade to trade only 1% of clients equity, me and few clients have tried all tricks nothing works
    Anyone trading mini and what are your settings? I need to advice my followers properly, this is my reason
    of starting this service but it seems it is going to be difficult for me in this way.

    Zulutrade reject most of my trade
    8xxx 2009/12/07 18:15:52 Did not open any lots for Marketchaos.co.za BUY GBP/USD because it would risk more than 0.4% of the current balance (4062.33)

    Second problem it also refused to close my trade with broker

    651xxx 2009/12/07 18:07:08 Did not CLOSE trade for 0.5 lot(s) for Marketchaos.co.za BUY GBP/USD, reason: Broker rejected value. Broker Message: invalid ticket (4108)

    651xxx 2009/12/07 18:06:56 Did not CLOSE trade for 0.5 lot(s) for Marketchaos.co.za BUY GBP/USD, reason: Broker rejected value. Broker Message: invalid ticket (4108)

    651xxx 2009/12/07 18:06:44 Did not CLOSE trade for 0.5 lot(s) for Marketchaos.co.za BUY GBP/USD, reason: Broker rejected value. Broker Message: invalid ticket (4108)

    Now I close those trade but clients trade are not closed.
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    Zulu Everyone can be signal provider to zulutrade

    As I mentioned briefly in the past, I have now fix the problem of catering for
    both micro account, mini account and standard account equally
    and proportionately just trading about 1% of their account .

    This fine tuning is not without a cost but in the longer run it will
    pay me off for my recent draw down.

    Some followers have suddently dropped me out, I hope
    they will add me exculisively again to be their preferred
    signal provider to be making them 100-300pips. It is simple
    smart partnership that work for both of us.

    To set this up: download update from here:
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    FXBROKER you are a true asset to those wanting to trade on Zulu you're going on my top zulu provider list



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    Quote Originally Posted by DickP View Post
    FXBROKER you are a true asset to those wanting to trade on Zulu you're going on my top zulu provider list
    I am very pleased to hear this from you.
    I hope those who left me before with live account would return. And those contemplating
    or still using demo should actually switch to live account starting from any amount :
    $100.00 to $millions.

    I have opened a new account that accomodate all sort of accounts

    The name is fxchaos

    The trading equity is just +$900 it was initially $1000 so I have to test it on the impact
    of losing 10% at ago. That is why you maybe seeing the current drawdown. The good
    news is that I cannot afford to lose $900, this is to accomodate all.

    The account enables me to trade 1% to 3% of any equity in compliance with
    my overall trading objectives.

    My rebates is very small and I am not actually concern with rebates but to show people
    that we can stand for each other and transfer wealth.

    I have been blessed with two great people that provided their mini live accounts
    to sort things out, and I am glad that God did not let them down.

    Please download the new version of improvements on the methods
    and way forward to rock the world in 2010 with zulutrade
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    Zulu How I will trade GBP/USD today

    I will be buying or looking for a good buy position today when london market opened. This may
    take a long time to come into play, but buying is more secure and safe over a long term period
    than buying.

    chart december 14a, see attached shows the nature of disorderliness before this posting

    Attachment december 14b shows what I will do or wait for before buying.

    Anyone selling now should use stop loss not above 1:6330


    If you are following me via zulutrade or you would want to know what I am doing to stand in the gap for
    both small and big traders, I have now put a nice package that would make both of us make money
    from zulutrade. Stop complaining, there is too much money that can be made either referring
    clients or trading for clients or both. See what I mean here, I looking forward for you guys
    to snap this up quickly to take advantage of 1000s and hundreds of 1000s of people that will
    be joining later.

    At: http://cashback.marketchaos.co.za
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    Zulu Yesterday was +50 pips on marketchaos.co.za

    Yesterday I managed to give my zulutrade followers +50pips. the market is prettily tough these days.

    Some people are still following me on marketchaos.co.za that is fine, but I now have dedicated
    account for followers with mini and micro accounts this fxchaos. You can search zulutrade for that name.

    I wished you should follow me with live money not demo please........


    Today's trade is like yesterday and the image below shows disorderliness or unrighteousness in market behaviour before London opens. Attached image show fractals in the network where disorderliness is currently prevailing.


    I will be buying when conditions of righteousness as shown in the image returns back to market.
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    [QUOTE=fxbroker;19183][QUOTE=DickP;19179]

    Yes it is silly. With demo you can let any signal provider serve you with up to 10 to 30lots at once
    as many times as possible in a day.

    For live account with 1k, getting the system to accept 1 lot from 1k equity at 1% was not possible or easy for us to overcome. We spent so much time fiddling with different settings for 1k to fit my trading 1 standard lot.

    Here is what I did with my first mini account follower today.

    We spent most part of the day trying to fit trading sytle to my 1k follower, this cost me the following

    1 - close out a draw-down trade that was recovery fast to for potential 1k profit. I ended up with -1k

    2 - Only to discover that it was not my style of trading, 1k is too small as mini account. Any trading under 10k should use micro, my follower decline and opted we should use stoploss 35pips

    3. I tried to accomodate some trade for -35pips, this cost many losses, partly due to my wrong timing I will explain this in another post. But -35pips is unrealistic as stoploss. It is better to have a drawdown that will recover than fixed stop loss under 100pips. We ended up with -177 pips due to stop loss hits too often for this 1k followers.

    I said this because I know some people focus more on zulutrade drawdown, this is actually not important, if the trader or signal provider is sure to recover the draw down into postive area within days. The real drawdown as I know it with MT4, is the actuall loss. like today my drawdown is -177 pips lost due to in appropraite stoploss.

    (maybe some of you want to comment why traders places more emphasis on zulutrade drawdown that went back into positive)

    4. Other followers with bigger (+5k as micro account) dropped my service because of lowering stoploss which cost them actual losses

    5. The good news is that despite stoploss hits 6 times, my 1k account follower is only in deficient of $105
    or actual losses, I guess this is not a problem it will be recovered in due course.

    Any 1k or less trader who want to use micro, consider following me. I allow trade to run up to -100pips, this is not a problem as the trade recovers within a week. We need to be factual on what is possible and not possible. too many stoploss being hit is one way of wiping out account.

    I will explain this in my next post.

    I hope this throw more light on how I intend to be standing in the gap for other traders, I am still trying to find a balance between small and bigger trader.

    Though, two bigger traders dropped my service, I believe the bulk of people I intend to be standing in the gap for, are in the range of 1k.
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    This is my reply to my mini account followers and maybe the reason of why we had a rough start with setting for 1k account.



    I appreciate your input greatly. You did not attached the file or screen shot of your settings.


    So if I had put 20 pips as minimum would this have worked?

    Two new issues:

    #1. Why is your settings taking all trades coming from me after your settings.

    This I could not understand. How did you set your maximum trades that was supposed to restrain me since it is not possible for me to know which trade your setting accepted on not. Do you still have any trade on?

    #2. If you lose -100pips it should not give you 10% of $1000 equity that is sucidal. It is supposed to give 2% of equity - maximum losses = $20.

    So I can now see your reasoning about my stop loss. This is where we have problem at the moment and it is the problem of trading with small equity.

    Let me explain this, if I lose 100pips for example that is 1k to me on a standard account. 1k is not 10% of 50k but 2%. So my stop loss should also return 2% proportionately to all accounts. Which means all accounts or followers should find this balance proportonately to the size of their accounts.

    Empahsis: All account should only suffer 2% loss. If my stoploss gives something higher, then the mini account should be step down to micro account. This is my argument on settings, I am not trading a mini account but a standard account. My settings need to be comfortable and universal to all accounts. This onus rest on all account holders since I do not know what they are doing.

    You see I am looking at righteousness to all type of accounts. This issue of standing in the gap is only demo traded for 50k. I do not need to keep any account open for more than even -10pips or -20pips or -30pips or even -100pips, the quicker they are spiked into losses the more trade I can execute, the more rebates I get. But this is not righteousness in the long run.

    If I do this, and I am not really standing in the gap for the poor, nor even the rich in this way but for myself. I hope this is clear on my views on managing funds for people in this way.

    I am still confused why my table did not work with zulutrade.

    1) On 1k account 1% = $10, this is the amount that should be traded. Not $100.00 per trade.

    2) 2% = $20

    If you take 2 lots of 2% you are trading $40 per trade.

    1 Pip value of $40 = $0.4, a loss of -100pip will give $40.0

    This is the same thing if I lose 1k at 100pips from a 50k, it is an acceptable risk, even 200pips. Same any lost of $40.00 on $1000 business is ok, even $80.00 is acceptable.

    if all my followers have the same mindset like me, it is fine and I am at ease to trade for them. It will be paining me to know that some people are suffering -35pips, this also part of my disorganisation yesterday.

    Current Problem:

    Zulutrade do not want to accept this settings because to them a mini lot is $100, and not $10. All mini accounts risked at least 10% of their account with their brokers, not 1%. My standard trading is based on only 2%.


    Expectations from mini account. Are mini account holders of 1k prepared to earn micro earnings with their 1k? If yes, account should be step down to micro account. Or they step it up to 10k to 50k. It is the same as what you sow is what reap my table was trying to explain.

    I still need to see your screen shot of your setting,and why it did not restrain me. It is a good headway though with pains and losses. People will gain from this experiences.

    So if you are following someone with $500,000 trading equity with $500, obviously you cannot stomach their draw downs.
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    Although, I was faced with two issues of conforming to my follower or accomodating my follower with 1k, I was also wrong in trade call, though I managed to scrap off few pips here and there.

    I was unrighteous to my trading objective which I wanted to restate here as follows:

    Investment Objectives from 2009 to 2014


    After the crash of 2008, our broad objective is to always sow into any instrument of trade starting from October 2009 when this service was started, until 2014, provided the day.

    i) it is not the end of the year, or

    ii) it is not end of the month, or

    iii) it is not the end of the week, or

    iv) it is not the end of the day.

    I was unrighteous in terms of viewing December as an all month of harvest since it is not the last month in a 7-year sabbath cycle. 2009 is just a fractal of a 7 year cycle. Within 2009, there should be more panic sell off in other words, sell should be a more dorminant activity than buying. Actually if taken the month as stand alone cycle (fractal) yesterday should actually be start of sowing instead of harvesting.

    In this regard I cut short my losing trade in GBP/JPY after London opened. There is no live account followers trading the pair. Demo subscribers sorry for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post

    I have and addendum to get a proper setting for all those with less than 1k trading equity.
    PM me to send you the link.

    Wow man, give me a few hours to read this



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    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post
    Yesterday I managed to give my zulutrade followers +50pips. the market is prettily tough these days.

    Some people are still following me on marketchaos.co.za that is fine, but I now have dedicated
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    I wished you should follow me with live money not demo please........


    Today's trade is like yesterday and the image below shows disorderliness or unrighteousness in market behaviour before London opens. Attached image show fractals in the network where disorderliness is currently prevailing.


    I will be buying when conditions of righteousness as shown in the image returns back to market.


    Really nice job, I will follow you on a demo account for a little while, be on the lookout for me

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