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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper012 View Post
    you are very simple minded. the point of the naked women comment was just as an example of what is not supposed to be on this forum. I feel that all your bible talk is not supposed to be all over a forum for forex. This guy is running a scam in my opinion, straight up. Or it might be a Ponzi/ pyarmid scheme. Anytime you hear someone talking about a "downline", this word is just another way of saying recriut. If any of you have time, look at the documents on this link. It's a classic Ponzi scheme. This guy was offering really high returns (although it was nothing like mr. fxbroker is offering) and I know some people who were taken in by this guy, who is now serving time in prison. http://www.libertytradereceiver.com/documents.html
    This is partially what the document says
    The indictment claims that Robinson told investors his company, Liberty Trade
    International, would provide short-term financing to home buyers or people refinancing
    their homes, which would generate the returns necessary to pay the promised interest rate on
    their investments. Robinson told investors the loans would be secured by liens against real
    estate with substantial value, and Liberty Trade would also create a reserve account to repay
    investors, according to the indictment.

    But instead, investors allegedly received promissory notes with no collateral and no insurance.
    Robinson made only about $300,000 in loans to people who were personal acquaintances of
    his, the indictment claims. To pay returns to investors, Robinson allegedly began a "Ponzi
    scheme," a pyramid scheme in which money from newly recruited investors is used to pay a
    return to earlier investors.

    Liberty Trade began to run out of funds to pay its investors in November 2005, the indictment
    claims. Liberty Trade then allegedly sent an employee to Gulfport, Miss., to solicit investors,
    and took in about $80,000 from investors in the area, including many people who had recently
    been affected by Hurricane Katrina.

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    Sniper give up, you have tried. My cash-reserve is not a ponzi or pyramid scheme. it is a simple cash back/referral system - we deliver Gospel meterials/training courses - in as far as the earth remained;
    in as far as sinners remained on this earth, in as far as instability exists in the markets, in as far as there is a lack of the knowledge of Christ in carrying out financial investments, and the Lord Jesus Christ has not come, the business will continue, that is, we will continue to spread the Gospel about applying his knowledge in the financial markets. There will be people in need of it both in this forum and worldwide.

    I am only very shy from hype - this is the biggest opportunity that hits the world right now. Let those who
    have vision and foresight join and become partners or just have their own Bible College. If you cannot pay your bills tomorrow, this idiot cannot even help or save you. But this opportunity will.

    There are +2.6 billion Christians worldwide that lacks this knowledge and there is the other world's population that needs the knowledge. Sinper you've tried but you failed with your attacks. I told you before that you will start attacking yourself soon........that is how liars work and things works against them.
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    This is the SAME THING THAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT. JUST LIKE YOU CANNOT PRODUCE ANY CHARTS OR SHOW ANY PROFITS, THIS GUY COULD NEVER PRODUCE ANY PROPERTY THAT HE CLAIMED HE WAS BUYING WITH PEOPLES MONEY. YOU AND HE ARE ONE IN THE SAME. SCAM ARTISTS WHO WILL EVENTUALLY END UP IN PRISON.
    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post
    This is partially what the document says
    The indictment claims that Robinson told investors his company, Liberty Trade
    International, would provide short-term financing to home buyers or people refinancing
    their homes, which would generate the returns necessary to pay the promised interest rate on
    their investments. Robinson told investors the loans would be secured by liens against real
    estate with substantial value, and Liberty Trade would also create a reserve account to repay
    investors, according to the indictment.

    But instead, investors allegedly received promissory notes with no collateral and no insurance.
    Robinson made only about $300,000 in loans to people who were personal acquaintances of
    his, the indictment claims. To pay returns to investors, Robinson allegedly began a "Ponzi
    scheme," a pyramid scheme in which money from newly recruited investors is used to pay a
    return to earlier investors.

    Liberty Trade began to run out of funds to pay its investors in November 2005, the indictment
    claims. Liberty Trade then allegedly sent an employee to Gulfport, Miss., to solicit investors,
    and took in about $80,000 from investors in the area, including many people who had recently
    been affected by Hurricane Katrina.

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    Sniper give up, you have tried. My cash-reserve is not a ponzi or pyramid scheme. it is a simple cash back/referral system - we deliver Gospel meterials/training courses - in as far as the earth remained;
    in as far as sinners remained on this earth, in as far as instability exists in the markets, in as far as there is a lack of the knowledge of Christ in carrying out financial investments, and the Lord Jesus Christ has not come, the business will continue, that is, we will continue to spread the Gospel about applying his knowledge in the financial markets. There will be people in need of it both in this forum and worldwide.

    I am only very shy from hype - this is the biggest opportunity that hits the world right now. Let those who
    have vision and foresight join and become partners or just have their own Bible College. If you cannot pay your bills tomorrow, this idiot cannot even help or save you. But this opportunity will.

    There are +2.6 billion Christians worldwide that lacks this knowledge and there is the other world's population that needs the knowledge. Sinper you've tried but you failed with your attacks. I told you before that you will start attacking yourself soon........that is how liars work and things works against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper012 View Post
    This is the SAME THING THAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT. JUST LIKE YOU CANNOT PRODUCE ANY CHARTS OR SHOW ANY PROFITS, THIS GUY COULD NEVER PRODUCE ANY PROPERTY THAT HE CLAIMED HE WAS BUYING WITH PEOPLES MONEY. YOU AND HE ARE ONE IN THE SAME. SCAM ARTISTS WHO WILL EVENTUALLY END UP IN PRISON.
    Here is another blow to yourself. Since the beginning of the year value investors worldwide have not returned any profit. Last week $1 trillion was wipe out of world's equities, not to talk of those suffered by retail traders even people on this forum. Only people like yourself claiming that they are making heavy returns by betting and gambling on short term panic. This is the current market situation woldwide.......your profit making if it is correct not lies is fuelled by evil desires and self egoitism and pride, which you have shown through and through in.

    The alternative which I offer is that even small investors with little money trade with long term perspective and be profitable in the market with low risk, and also by teaching others how to trade the method. If they partake in helping to educate others and spread the Gospel they make money in millions because that is more real that what they are doing now.

    It doesn't matter whether they are profitable from financial markets or outside the markets, what is important is that their profitability is guaranteed and righteous in the eye of God, and they have peace of mind. What is the scam here. As at now both big investors or small are faced with losses and doom future, but I bring hope and freedom to them.
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    So what? Profit is profit. I'm up over $8,000 today. 2 short trades and 3 long trades. Who cares though? Money is money. That is why I will always be a more profitable trader than you. i know the name of the game. You want to make trading into some kind of spiritual undertaking and that is just not what this game is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post
    where all of you are suddenly coming from? Which mortgage you want to pay? the one John Paulson package for Goldman and Sachs. Lazy guy.
    no, the one that helps me pay roof over my head that i have since before crisis. im saying $300 a month would be better going to that

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    Hey..what's your problem? He's gonna give you $10 grand for that $300 "investment" and you could pay for your house, car and everything else because after you get the $10 grand, your check for $86 million will be forthcoming..and it will all start with you sending a little $300 check to him.
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    no, the one that helps me pay roof over my head that i have since before crisis. im saying $300 a month would be better going to that

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    There aren't enough hours in the day to read every line of this thread. What is going on?

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    In a nutshell, mr.fxbroker claims that if you send him $300 to his bank account in nigeria, he will first send you $10,000 and then eventually, if you recruit enough people, you can earn up to $86 million dollars! I personally think it's bull**** and a scam...correction-I KNOW it's all bull**** and a scam, but you can draw your own conclusion. He goes on to say that taking short trades is a sin and when i asked him about what method he uses to trade, he said his method is Jesus Christ. Oh, in addition, this guy who is going to be giving you this free $10k, has less than $1,000 in his "trading account". About 98% of his website is about God and Jesus and starting your own bible college. Again, draw your own conclusion.
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    There aren't enough hours in the day to read every line of this thread. What is going on?

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    Technically this is not a scam, since it is a social networking type of pay it forward operation, thousands of which are operating legally right now. So there is this to consider friends

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    Ok...what services will he offer for my $300? Is it a one time payment of $300 or is it $300 every month? I will assume that it's $300 per month because this how everybody will get paid. If I join and then bring in 10 other people, their $300 each will go towards paying me. There is no other source that this money will come from. It's called a pyramid scheme and people have been running them for years. With real network marketing, you have to offer some type of tangible services or products. Just google Amway Global. They offer products in ADDIDION to the money you can make by recruiting others. This guy doesn't offer anything but Jesus talk and I can get that for free in America and it won't be disguised as forex trading methods. AND I QUOTE>>>>>"A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, without any product or service being delivered. Pyramid schemes are a form of fraud[1]

    Pyramid schemes are illegal in many countries including Albania, Australia,[2] Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China,[3] Colombia,[4] France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland[citation needed], Iran[5], Italy,[6] Japan,[7] Malaysia, Mexico, Nepal[citation needed], The Netherlands,[8] New Zealand,[9] Norway[10], the Philippines,[11] Poland, Portugal, Romania,[12] South Africa,[13] Sri Lanka,[14] Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand,[15] the United Kingdom, and the United States.[16]"
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    Technically this is not a scam, since it is a social networking type of pay it forward operation, thousands of which are operating legally right now. So there is this to consider friends

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    And if you read my last post, technically IT IS NOT LEGAL, so what are you talking about? I want someone to explain to me 1 product or service that he will provide me. If all he's doing is promising me $10 grand, then what he is trying to do it totally illegal...even in africa believe it or not.
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    Technically this is not a scam, since it is a social networking type of pay it forward operation, thousands of which are operating legally right now. So there is this to consider friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper012 View Post
    And if you read my last post, technically IT IS NOT LEGAL, so what are you talking about? I want someone to explain to me 1 product or service that he will provide me. If all he's doing is promising me $10 grand, then what he is trying to do it totally illegal...even in africa believe it or not.
    You've hijacked the thread, you've made your points, twisted what is on my websites, change the ideas and started explain my websites to people and even teach them things that are not there or true.

    Let me point you to your self destructions in just few postings of reply to danforth


    And if you read my last post, technically IT IS NOT LEGAL, so what are you talking about? I want someone to explain to me 1 product or service that he will provide me. If all he's doing is promising me $10 grand, then what he is trying to do it totally illegal...even in africa believe it or not.
    If you go to my website http://marketchaos.co.za/school - people pay $300 to get training on how to trade chaos in the financial markets using the Bible. What is illegal in charging $300? You agreed that it is Legal.

    Your views are that, it is not except it cannot be done by an Africa black man.

    Now you realised you made mistake in your last post, you've just testify that my offer is LEGAL you sent in another post to contradict yourself

    Ok...what services will he offer for my $300? Is it a one time payment of $300 or is it $300 every month? I will assume that it's $300 per month because this how everybody will get paid. If I join and then bring in 10 other people, their $300 each will go towards paying me. There is no other source that this money will come from. It's called a pyramid scheme and people have been running them for years. With real network marketing, you have to offer some type of tangible services or products. Just google Amway Global. They offer products in ADDIDION to the money you can make by recruiting others. This guy doesn't offer anything but Jesus talk and I can get that for free in America and it won't be disguised as forex trading methods. AND I QUOTE>>>>>"A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, without any product or service being delivered. Pyramid schemes are a form of fraud[1]
    You wrote above: what service? Training, Training and Training and access to digital ebooks. Is that too difficult for you to get and understand?

    Full training cost $300, and basic access to digital ebooks is one time off of $25.00, these service you can liken to Amway Global. It is even better than Amway Global because, the $300 is the cost of your training it has nothing to do with supporting anyone. The training is NOT FREE. However, a trainee is automatically registered in the cashback program so that they can share and spread news about the training to other people and also share from revenue coming in from our referral program (Bible College) without them referring anyone. If they refer they earn more directly from their referrals. How is it a pyramid scheme? It is better than Amway, any product in the market as at now.

    What could be better than sharing the KNOWLEDGE OF GOD of how to be avoiding financial losses now? It is timely and potential is HUGE and reward is EARTHLY AND ETERNAL. This is what God wants...........and not what you think.

    But you cannot comprehend this but you went on to start assuming things for me, how you will bring other people. No you explained it wrongly their $300 goes to my pocket it is not shared. I give cashback of $15.00 out of $25, each time they refer people to access digital ebooks -Gospel materials on my Bible College. If you just stop assuming things the way wicked people assume things you will stop your evil distortion of information which you derived joy in doing here. This is why I said they should ban you.


    I could only smile and said to myself good boy, he is destroying himself, my prayers are working that God should use you to blot out all negative reports you've said about this thread by yourself. And use you to promote and expose how Satan uses people to confused other people in making errors and losses in the financial markets. He did. I said that prayers just yesterday.

    You are blindfolding people and creating fear in other people's mind in simple scriptural way they can be prosper by God. It is up to them to remain in darkness and keep losing money to their brokers or abandon you. I 've already deliver the Gospel here and enlightened people here that there is alternative way to make Satam eat dirt and not them.

    Now let us hear your main reason for doing what you have been doing.

    In a nutshell, mr.fxbroker claims that if you send him $300 to his bank account in nigeria, he will first send you $10,000 and then eventually, if you recruit enough people, you can earn up to $86 million dollars! I personally think it's bull**** and a scam...correction-I KNOW it's all bull**** and a scam, but you can draw your own conclusion. He goes on to say that taking short trades is a sin and when i asked him about what method he uses to trade, he said his method is Jesus Christ. Oh, in addition, this guy who is going to be giving you this free $10k, has less than $1,000 in his "trading account". About 98% of his website is about God and Jesus and starting your own bible college. Again, draw your own conclusion.
    You started from saying ......TECHNICALLY IT IS LEGAL TO MAKE $86 MILLIONS IN THE WAY I PROPOSED!
    but you ended calling it scam because it will discourage people from getting involved in greed of short selling. Scripturally, people should be discouraged from what is sinful to God and focus on REAL THING......spreading the Gospel of a better way to trade and invest in the financial markets using simple knowledge from the Bible.

    Between 2008 and 2010 market has crashed 3 times. Most people lost their equity due to short selling. In the last one, $1trillion dollars evaporated into few hands that triggered the illegal short-sell. This wickedness or evil way will increase in years to come, you have perfected how to gain from evil and sinful practices is what I am saying and is what you are saying and proud about.

    We do not have disagreement about this. You are good with your price action theory which is not based on demand and supply or the strength of economies of nations but manipulations. We do not have disagreement about this. To you, there is nothing wrong in benefitting from what is making the world to lose $trillions of dollars to few hands every now and then provided you can earn miserable few 1000s of dollars why others are pocketing billions of dollars.

    I am only telling people who are not able to make money in this way to look at my option - God's way that will give them $86 million faster than what forex and stock market can give them. They should concentrate efforts on teaching and spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ on how to bring Light to the corrupt financial world. Is this not what you are challenging by introducing lots of confusions in your arguments? This is the hallmark of Satan. This is what the world follows as at now.

    Conclusion: If not, or if I am wrong, let us read Job 26:3-4
    3> You've given wonderful advice (to people in this forum) to the person with no wisdom! You have really shown how wise you are!
    4> Who helped you say this things? Whose spirit inspired you?

    Tell us now. Were you inspired by God or by Satan? Be bold and tell us
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    I said technically it is NOT legal. go read it again. i said it is NOT LEGAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper012 View Post
    I said technically it is NOT legal. go read it again. i said it is NOT LEGAL.
    It doesn't matter what you said, you have read my reply, because I know TECHNICALLY WHAT I AM DOING IS LEGAL you are still wrong and misrepresenting my web site and giving people wrong explanations based on your own assumption. Just answer the concluding part what spirit inspired you to say I am wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper012 View Post
    And if you read my last post, technically IT IS NOT LEGAL, so what are you talking about? I want someone to explain to me 1 product or service that he will provide me. If all he's doing is promising me $10 grand, then what he is trying to do it totally illegal...even in africa believe it or not.
    Yea, a ponzi scheme is a ponzi scheme is a ponzi scheme. Even though it may not quack like a duck, there's alot of birds in the duck family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper012 View Post
    And if you read my last post, technically IT IS NOT LEGAL, so what are you talking about? I want someone to explain to me 1 product or service that he will provide me. If all he's doing is promising me $10 grand, then what he is trying to do it totally illegal...even in africa believe it or not.
    how you k,now its a scam? did you get scammed by this person?
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    Nope. I'm just not stupid enough to believe that someone is just going to give me $10 grand and all I have to do is send them $300 dollars. Do the math, that's about a 3300% return. Feel free to send him as much money as you wish though. He also makes promises of $86 million dollars you will get "over and over" through his network of Christians all over the world.
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    how you k,now its a scam? did you get scammed by this person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxbroker View Post
    Based on


    I wish to use this link to start a thread I called standing in the Gap for Zulutraders.

    My method of trade is based on chaos theory (no mathematics) only CCI indicator to identify orderliness
    and disorderliness or (righteousness and unrighteousness) among traders (primary market participants).
    Simple if market participants are righteous, I partake in the market with them. If they are unrighteous I stay aside because that is what the Bible says.

    There are seasons to sow and harvest. Any contrary behaviour when traders are supposed to be sowing
    e.g withdrawing from market when it is not yet time - like panic sell off, is a sign or indicator of unrighteousness, disorderliness. Also when participants are supposed to be harvesting but entry the market is also unrighteousness or recklessness. These crowd behaviour are identifiable technically from the chart. The world's techniques were designed to commit common sins to breedsgreeds and temptations to enter market at wrong times because of our belief that market will continue to grow forever. No. God make room for time to grow and take harvest.

    Cycle of God is basically measure in 1 week - a week also have subdivision or fractal of days. In all, God allowed us to operate on yearly cycle as grand cycle or supper cycle in Elliot Waves. In this supper cycle there are months to sow and allow investment to keep growing until december for profit taking.
    The same is true for fractal of weeks and days. This is the general Providence of God and His covenant with man in Genesis 8:22. To sow without harvesting is also unrigtheous and a sin.

    I will not be able to explain the entire body of knowledge here that took me +3years to observe and docummented.

    Why am I looking for Zulutraders.

    There are so many reasons. I discovered that zulutrade offered me possibilities to show the world that the Bible is not old for financial trading both in identifying profitable trades from the chart, holding on to trades, taking profit and managing risk and managing clients money.

    It is more profitable to trade good for zulutraders for several reasons - as services, and to show that we can be the Light of the world, and more importantly for profit. One good trader is capable of telling 100 good traders because righteous traders are scarse to find. In the end, I hope to use the technology to galvnised hundreds to 1000s of followers or even millions of followers around the world. The market is huge and profitable financially and sowing the seed of God to people's hearts.

    It is my wish to use God's knowledge to bring smile and hope to people's faces and hearts, in the end, many may know God.

    To train people to be zulutrade signal provider.

    - I am not forcing my training on any person, but I could provide signals and trade recommendations to members to use to trade and feed to zulutrade be their own signal provider. This is the simplest way instead of following other people who do not know market better than you. There is money in the concept of zulutrade just earning few rebates per day for say 30 followers is a decent income. Many cannot make that kind of money trading for themselves per month.

    This service will be based on close memberships and a fee of $50 per month
    I will give directions on three instruments without technicalities. I am prepared to host the service under a forum like this because they already have the knowledge of zulutrade and are very motivated about it. Also I will be prepared to share the revenue to support this forum - my interest is not primarily on profit though I need to be very profitable in the long run that is what the Bible says - we must show profit in all things, and I am not ashamed of following Biblical concepts in this way.

    Eventually if people are successful with my trades they would rather like to learn by taking any of my training package. If they don't they can stick to following me or just subscribe to the membership section of $50 per month. One way or the other they become part of standing in the gap for me, while I also stand in the gap for them - it is a win-win situation.

    On holding trades - I do not hold trades for more than a cycle a day or 1 week. I've actually put in place a manual everyone to follow and should read and use it to setup their account - I called the idea "can two walk together unless they agreed." This ensure that your losses are not more than 35pips in bad days.

    Small losses are acceptable even by Jesus Christ - it is unrealistic and unrighteous for people to think there should not be losses - risk are there even in the Bible, but it said we should be able to calculate the cost before going into any venture.

    My zulutrade account is marketchaos.co.za

    But I would suggest each person to go through my set up recommendations, and give me a chance for both of us to make profit together.

    Your comments are welcome. You can ask me anything about my results and losses, and about membership subscription and how you think it is feasible. It is still benefiticial to share my ideas in this way with anyone and of cause to support the forum that allowed me to share my ideas to other people as well.

    Thank you.

    If you point your cursor to my profile you will discover this setup manual. This will show you how I trade and why it is safe to subscribe all of your zulutrade accounts to my signal services.
    Sounds like a really great strategy, I will be trying this out, thank you for sharing

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    This is scam! Do not fall for this scam! SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!!
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    This is scam! Do not fall for this scam! SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!!
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    You stole my profile name, your first post is to shout scam,
    and are you sure you are not sniper who could not answer my last question.

    For you which spirit made you to say I am a scam?
    That of Satan or of Jesus Christ.
    Answer the question and let the forum member decide
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