Forex Traders are SCUM!

[DJFX]

Take that you scum bag forex trading scammers!

[ACE]

Currency traders are scum... "come to my website and trade oil instead"

What a jack ***.

[Dannyfx]

LOL Ace, it doesn't stop there.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-at-...sibl-5cb22.htm

Read that!

Okay, let's not take the bait and call the guy who made this video a scammer, or call him anything. I'd just like to point out how religion is the ultimate cop-out... Basically everyone who thinks he is a scammer or merely questions his methods is "Satan" and by buying his crap we're enlightened and good.

[iamFOREX]

LOL Ace, it doesn't stop there.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-at-...sibl-5cb22.htm

Wow, so much for checking emotion at the door...

"You are begging me Tovar to come out to your house and bust every one of your teeth down your throat, but instead of doing that my lawyer and I are contacting the local Sheriff there and let them know what you are doing here on this board against me."

There's two parts to this. First, I haven't met a single successful trader that didn't check his emotion at the door when it comes to trading. And secondly I have never met a single cop that gives a god damn about people lying to each other on the internet.

Sad that he brings up his belief in God and how he is on a path of righteousness through his work selling a "secret code" for $400 steering others away from eternal damnation in Forex trading, when he himself sounds like he's so deeply disturbed that nothing will help heal his soul.

[FluxLux]

And secondly I have never met a single cop that gives a god damn about people lying to each other on the internet.

"You are begging me Tovar to come out to your house and bust every one of your teeth down your throat, but instead of doing that my lawyer and I are contacting the local Sheriff there and let them know what you are doing here on this board against me."

Dave called the sheriff, the sheriff sent him the >>>>

[Forex_Fingers]

Dave called the sheriff, the sheriff sent him the >>>>

LOL....

I wonder how that conversation went... "Yes, Sheriff? It's an emergency, I am selling a secret code on how to trade for $1000 and this guy in your town is calling me a scammer! You have to help me!!!!"

[property99]

So, all that video says is that anyone that thinks he is a scammer is in fact a scammer sent by lucifer to ruin his ability to spread the word of God which has taken the form of a secret code that he can only see when applied to trading oil futures only?

[DickP]

So, all that video says is that anyone that thinks he is a scammer is in fact a scammer sent by lucifer to ruin his ability to spread the word of God which has taken the form of a secret code that he can only see when applied to trading oil futures only?

Yea I knew this video sounded familiar...

It's the same looney toon that made the "You can't win in forex because the devil is trading against you...your losses will add up to 666 every time. Trade Oil with my secret code instead" Video... >>>>>>>> http://forexforums.com/forums/genera...am-market.html <<<<<<<<<


I'm paraphrasing... "My secret code requires you to have faith in God, and since I am a product of God, you must have complete faith in me, and by complete faith I mean send me $499 for this secret code that God only told me and only I can see so you need to watch my webinars as I decipher it for you. If you do not have faith in me and God's code, it is the work of the devil and your soul is damned. Since I know 1000 times more about this world than all of you put together, by mocking me you prove how evil, corrupt, and dense you are."

[calvin]

Holy **** it IS the guy who made the other video... same crazy bull****.

I just saw another video he made where he talks about his mother getting into witchcraft when she was younger...



If only she had believed in abortion too...

[henryduncan12]

I am first time listing that forex traders are scam. I am not familiar with such any trader while scam brokers' list is very long.

[noynoy]

man how can we be scum, for gods sake, why are we labeled by scum, trying to make a living in a vast huge market with pennies, striving fort success, dreaming of a good life, and they dare call us SCUM!! LOL

[calvin]

man how can we be scum, for gods sake, why are we labeled by scum, trying to make a living in a vast huge market with pennies, striving fort success, dreaming of a good life, and they dare call us SCUM!! LOL

Yea, well, he's one of the most enlightened human beings that knows more about the world from his 44 passes around the sun than any of us, but he's trading oil from a one room apartment in the middle of no where. I'd think one of the smartest men alive wouldn't generalize so badly and call millions of people around the world that trade currencies all scum. Surely there's a few good traders among the millions of scum sucking forex trading lowlives out there....

[germanc]

Dave called the sheriff, the sheriff sent him the >>>>

hahaha

[McPott]

Take that you scum bag forex trading scammers!

I honestly thank you for this post. Not only do I think Forex Peace Army is run by a bunch of scammers... this guy Dave Kavales is the most entertaining thing I've seen in a really long time. And its fresh too, this war is going on every day on Rip off report it looks like...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-at-...sibl-5cb22.htm

It's amazing this back and forth almost 200 posts its a long read... i started this morning and came back to it and just got done.

Honestly i'd have to see the videos to know if this guy is full of **** or not but he's sort of unhinged to say the least. And yea, he does 'generalize' and call all Forex traders scum over and over again thinking we're all out to scam. in his own words since anyone that chooses to ignore the possible fake posts that defend him, then those non-believers are losing out on millions.

how many scams have we heard and exposed that promise you the world and end up delivering nothing, or at the very least put a new spin on old methods we all know?

And we're all too keen on the understanding that the only safe money in the markets is teaching how to trade or selling some sort of product rather than actually trading.

I keep reading that he just uses demo accounts and simulation in forward testing. Where is the real account where he is actually trading with what he preaches?'

If I had $400 that I didn't want to potentially waste, i'd try it out. but until then...Dave can take a ride in the................

[McPott]

I'm almost convinced that all those people on there defending the "secret code" are fake and the owner himself.

Look at all of his videos! There's always a reference to the Matrix, he talks about it and there's clips from the films itself, images, even his screen saver is the matrix.

Isn't it odd then that the people (who all, oddly enough, feel the need to put the phrase in their replies "I am real") say stuff like...

1. "you want stay dumb and live in the matrix your loss" by Fransa
2. "I'm a genius, knowing more than your pea brains are capable of comprehending on a quantum level, you cannot begin to imagine how dumbed down you are, Ronald Mcdonald rejects of human beings, dumbed down by your masters, living in your matrix of stupidity and corruption, feeding off your own ignorance and lies and hate and greed." by David
3. "Maybe it has to do with you being stuck within the Matrix? And your mind just cannot accept that the whole financial industry is a scam to begin with?" by David
4. "David is trying to help people break free of this matrix we all live in." by Petrek
5. "They will help me and anyone who works it to be successful in this declining economy to BREAK free of this matrix that we are all caught it." by Petrek again.
6. "So what am I to conclude from this? People are just morons? People are just retards? People are just mind boggling stupid and stuck within the Matrix? " by David
7. "Or be skeptical like the world is and continue to live within the Matrix, like everybody chooses to do. I for one am tired of trying to convince people, I have found it's a waste of time, people are never going to wake up, they will continue to live within the Matrix and believe all the lies told to them, and hear every truth and laugh at it, this is simply the way people are and they won't wake up." by David
8. "It sucks living in a world filled with people stuck in the Matrix, and no matter how hard I try to pull them out of the Matrix they simply won't come out, they love the Matrix, they love believing what everybody else believes, following along like sheep, believing all the lies and nonsense because they see it on TV, or read it in some magazine, or hear it from everybody else. Whenever somebody like me comes around everybody laughs at them, it never fails too." by David.
9. "everything you think you know was given to you by them from the time you were born, truly you live within their Matrix if you live within the USA or western world." by David.
10. "I mention that because, as a student of the Holy book, I can relate when you speak of "living in a matrix", as reading the Qur'an liberates me from the slavery of regressing to our inherent weaknesses to sin." by Dreame (that's a real name?)

References to the Matrix comes up 16 times in one page from at least 5 different people, allegedly.


I see through this guy's bull**** like a car's windshield...

Why I even care is A) being called scum for earning a decent living trading, and B) being called scum by someone that is a supposedly genius at trading but spends hours of his day every day posting on RipOffReport.com trying to defend his "secret code" to make $400.

He seems out there though, I don't even want to pick a fight with this guy. I'm by no means a wimp, but crazy often beats out tough... anyone that can have a conversation with 30 fake people at once is insane in the membrane!

"But unfortunately the enemy attacks me so much so often that it's difficult to deal with the pain associated with trying to teach people, the enemy won't stop attacking me, these Mason's hate my guts, and they won't stop attacking me."

Dude, who the **** is a Mason here? I doubt the freemasons give a rats *** about anything anyone does on line.

And then when some of you cannot see the code, you call me a scam. Well, if that be true, how did I do a live demonstration for Global Futures in front of 250 traders and achieve a 90% accuracy rate doing roughly 8 trades in two hours?

90% from 8 trades? That's the proof of the method's success?


I think dude man may be suffering from narcissistic personality disorder for the following reasons and all should take care dealing with such people. Oddly enough, the more you accuse him or her of being wrong, it actually validates their delusional feeling of persecution that feeds the disorder and they lash out against those they feel persecute him. It may be that from his or her childhood causes him much pain, be it his parents never made him feel good enough, scolded him for his poor grades, and was given unobtainable goals to achieve either by friends, family, or other role model figures. When confronted about what causes his pain they will never admit the truth and feigns great contentedness in what he has become, projects his superiority over others and espouses he is successful at everything he is doing. No matter what you say to him he will always be correct even if he is wrong, he will twist the truth so that he can assign blame to anyone or anything other than himself.

I got the previous statements from n article on NPD, it's put well. I also match what the article says about NPD with the word's of the video maker himself...


FACT: The person with NPD cannot and will not ever change for anyone or anything. From my experience, they are heartless, conscienceless, soulless beings who will drain you of whatever self-esteem and self-worth you have left if you let them. The ideal victim in the world of a narcissist is a damaged person - someone with low self-esteem, co-dependant, a broken soul. If there is a chink in your own armor, a character flaw of any sort, a neediness of any kind, you will be a prime target for a narcissist.
THis should hit home with anyone that is struggling in trading, you are struggling, you see the advertisements put forth 90% win, secret code, and take the bait. You are the damaged ones, you are the ones that can't find a way to be successful, that is your chink in your armor, your painful inability to succeed.



FACT: If the narcissist cannot immediately find a weakness in you, they will be consumed with looking for weaknesses and flaws in you or even in creating them. They feed on this preoccupation, and they cannot accept that there is anyone on this earth who is more important than they are.
CASE-IN-POINT: "You better hope I never find you Jeff, but I'm hiring a private investigator to do exactly that, and when we find you you're going to pay for what you have done here, I will personally make you pay Jeff"


FACT: Narcissists are thoughtless people who live exclusively for their own benefit. Their outward image is amazingly cunning, even charming, and often heroic. But when you become better acquainted with them, it becomes clear that there is always an ulterior motive to what they do. It’s all a charade. They will give of themselves only if there is something to be gained for their own ego.
CASE-IN-POINT: "The only way in which I'm crazy is being dumb enough to try and help people in this world, most people are total scum and not worth helping in anyway shape or form, running this business has taught that to me all so very clearly...."

FACT: They are prone to fits of rage and adult tantrums if they do not get what they want.
CASE-IN-POINT: "I can tell you one thing though Tovar, you are seriously lucky I don't come over to your house and knock every one of your teeth down your throat for saying the lies you've said about me here, and too bad you're such a sissy boy you won't meet me anywhere so that I can show you what a sissy boy that you are."

FACT: Most people with NPD do not do well in team sports. They will choose golf over football since they can stand out from the crowd playing golf.
CASE-IN-POINT: "I live across the street from the District, the most expensive shopping mall in Nevada, and live in Green Valley, the most desirable area in all of Las Vegas, next to the golf country club."

FACT: But often, even when disillusionment and iconoclastic despair have set in – the narcissist continues to pretend to love God and follow Him. The narcissist maintains this deception because his continued proximity to God confers on him authority.
CASE-IN-POINT: "Well guess what dumb dumbs, God does exist, I have been in God's presence and God spoke directly to me, I know more about this world and what's going on within it than you are capable of imagining let alone comprehending."

FACT: Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
CASE-IN-POINT: "And furthermore dumb dumb, I have a bare minimum of a THOUSAND times your intellect, let alone moral character, and I know more about this life than you are capable of imagining let alone comprehending. Not only am I superior to you intellectually, but I'm also superior to you in every other way as well, physically and morally for instance."

FACT: This person will put their own needs and interests (no matter how irresponsible or immature) above the needs of their friends and family and blame other people for their shortcomings and mistakes
CASE-IN-POINT: "But some of you don't want to put in the effort to use the code, you want everything easy in this life.....And then when some of you cannot see the code, you call me a scam. Well, if that be true, how did I do a live demonstration for Global Futures in front of 250 traders and achieve a 90% accuracy rate doing roughly 8 trades in two hours?"

FACT: There is always an ulterior motive to what they do. It’s all a charade. They will give of themselves only if there is something to be gained for their own ego. They will use their “apology” only as a stepping stone to something else which will satisfy another need they have.
CASE-IN-POINT: "I almost killed myself trading the Forex market, and it was during my trading of the Forex market that I discovered the Secret Code, but it took me trading the Forex 24 hours per day for 6 months to discover the code."

[Airheadz]

Wow... Nutbar factor 10!

that's fuxed up that someone calls himself 80% winning with only a few dozen trades or less... lol...

[McPott]

And there's nothing fictional about what I'm saying, or "libelous" before any of the imaginary people come here and threaten to knock my teeth down my throat, I'm matching the FACTS about NPD with some of the very words the person in question says himself. It's all out there in the public and public figures have a lessened right to claim "defamation" since they put themselves in the public sphere by choice. I'd also contend that a judge would laugh at this guy the moment he sees the videos that were the cause of that guy Jeff on RipOffReport to call him crazy but the ripoffreport text says enough....
1) "We're in the Matrix"
2) "Running this website has taught me one very important truth in this life, most people, especially Americans, are scum of this earth. Fat, ignorant, stupid, hateful, liars, and loving to sin and hating that which is good."
3) "And here is my message to you Americans and Europeans, you are the scum of this earth, you are nothing but a bunch of godless Infidels, while you think the Muslims are scum, it is you who is the scum, and the Muslims are God's people."
4) "You were scum when I was 5, you were scum when I was 10, you were scum when I was 20, and now at 44 you
are scum beyond description"
5) "people in this world are total 100% scum bags, and they would have the nerve to call me the scammer, when in reality it is I who am the truth teller"
6) "I have a bare minimum of a THOUSAND times your intellect, let alone moral character"

He basically offends 99.9% of humanity except some Muslims and himself... CLASSIC NARCISSISTIC PD! All I'm sayin here, his secret code could very well make you millions of dollars, but I haven't met anyone that tried it and had that result... and his behavior would never make me want to work with him.

[gundang_FOREX]

Lots of people in the world are scummy but it seems the bar is very low to be called a scumbag to some

[Harrison]

From what I just read, we traders are scum for trading currencies but trading oil is okay to this man? But the secret code was revealed to him after failing at trading Forex for 6 months, then he used the strategy that failed him in forex in oil trading and it was the game changer...???

[McPott]

Not to my surprise his name shows up on spammy blog posts all over the place with a signature "David Kuvelas is the author for Top Trading Firms http://www.top-trading-firms.com"

He seemed to like forex when there was money in it pushing stuff that involved no risk.

http://web.archive.org/web/200604022...ing-firms.com/


And the main argument defending his whole background in blackjack is horrible, in his own words "I have been playing on these tables every day for 14 years professionally, I've played on thousands upon thousands of tables," He is not a trading expert, he admitted to failing and "getting killed" in forex within 6 months, but is not offering his "expertise" in oil trading. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE EXCEPT THE THING BEING TRADED! Open up a brent crude chart if your broker has it, its the same principals, same exact candles, price action, price patterns, you can even use the same indicators! So why is Forex so hard but Oil Trading so clear, clear enough to be able to start a no risk enterprise and show people how clear it is for $400 in 7 you tube videos?

Then add in all of his own words, his anger, his treatment of others that question his methods (which are a secret until you pay a small fortune), just make him a very unattractive trading adviser for me. If he has a problem with that I live on 58th in Brooklyn, NY. He doesn't have to warn me before he comes to pay a visit, I'll just look out for the only guy dressed like Neo from the Matrix.