Obamanomics Destroying the Economy?

[HoaxTrader]

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Under his watch North Korea has gone nuclear with no response besides sending in part of our fleet that can be decimated in one strike by their arsenal of missiles.

Now, I'm rolling on the floor in uncontrollable laughter!

First, no Naval Commander worth his weight in salt and no Naval Strategic Planning Session would EVER place ANY of our vessels in the naked position of being so easily decimated by a singular missile strike from anywhere on the face of the globe. You've got to give our Naval Commanders far more credit than that. They war game this kind of stuff all the time. They know the potential adversaries capabilities and any maneuver made at sea is done with protective (defensive) posture, so as not to overly expose the fleet, or any part thereof.

Second, North Korea, had lived under the terrifying weight each and every day, of have having 900+ nuclear weapons belonging to the United States of America, located directly across the 38th parallel in South Korea. It was not until the early 1990's, that the United States removed its more than 900 nukes from South Korean soil.

Third, North Korea, first initiated a Nuclear Test in 2006, during the George W. Bush Administration, not the Barak Obama Administration. Furthermore, NK's nuclear question, some estimate, began as early as the 1970's, depending on which intelligence entity you believe.

Lastly, it was George W. Bush, that labeled North Korea, before its Nuclear Test, one of the components of the "Axis of Evil." Not something you want to do when your potential adversary is loading up on a new Nuke diet!

Still, I'm a no-account Joe, with little experience of knowledge of these issues.

Under his watch the middle east went to ****, and he even admitted "we didn't see this Egypt thing coming," dude, you own the CIA, how could you not see this coming!?

That's strange, because I thought that the Middle East began to go "****," AFTER U.S. CIA and British MI6, attempted a coup against the democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh in Iran, circa 1953/54, merely because the Prime Minister wanted to consolidate authority and control over his country's own oil supply, which would effectively remove the European controlled AIOC as the de facto Iranian oil supply kingpin.

From that point forward, down throughout the history of Western foreign policy with respect to the Middle East, and policy blunder after policy blunder, war and strife, the Anti-West Hate that we now see permeating throughout the Middle East, was born. That anti-west hate from the ME was not born on November 8th, 2008. Anti-Obama Hate, was born on that date, but not the anti-west hate we see coming from the ME.

Lastly, what's going on in Northern and North Eastern Africa right now, is considered a good thing, by most Neoconservatives - let alone those who wish to see "democracy" spread across the entire world. The People are seeking their own freedom in North and North Eastern Africa, which is in stark contrast to what we saw in Iraq. The People of Iraq, did not revolt on their own. And, they did not ask for any help from the West. We launched attacks on THEM. Without just cause and based on crock-pot of lies and deceit about WMD that did not exist - even when we knew darn well that it did not exist. BTW: North and North East Africa, is not the Middle East. But, I fully understand your point.

Having said all of that, I'm still just a simple minded Joe, who can easily be rebutted - if you try.

A note about Barak Obama:

This man took on an amazingly difficult challenge. Effectively deal with two (2) wars. End official combat operations in one and redeploy troops home safely and responsibly. Deliver on a 28+ year old failed promise to the government of Afghanistan and the Afghan People, to finally help them get to a point where they can defend themselves against the perpetual tyranny coming from now both the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Deal with either TB or AQ if and when the leak into Pakistan and, if the Pakistani Government fails to handle the matter on their own. Re-start a severely stalled economic engine that underwent the most devastating set-back in U.S. history, since 1929/32. Stop the bleeding caused by massive job loss and systemic foreclosure across the country. Rebuild a broken and dysfunctional Public Educational System. And, finally restore the lost credibility around the world, in the United States of America, that had been smashed in the dirty over the previous eight (8) long years of abject terror and crisis.

I've got to be honest with you. Only a total Mad Man would even come close to touching that job -OR- a totally committed and dedicated human being who loved his country to the point of adoration, wanted nothing more than to see his country prosper again, not merely in dollars and cents, but in character, integrity, trustworthiness, moral backbone and credibility, and a human being with the intelligence and capability to actually believe that he can get the job done. That's what the People elected on November 8th, 2008 and that is precisely what the people got. Regardless, of how many Anti-Obama Haters there are in the United States of America, who have been extremely busy Re-Writing History at ever turn and at ever single step of the way - even before the vapors dry from the mouth of the President after he speaks.

I have never seen such obvious, glaring, transparent HATE for the a sitting President having done absolutely nothing but what was right, courageous and prudent for the American People. From the outright racist comments from people like Rush Limbaugh to Newt Gingrich, to the more subtle commentary from members of Congress with respect to President Obama's "birth certificate" which clearly comes from the State of Hawaii. To the daily drum beat in the media by talking head "experts" who constantly question President Obama, like he was some kind of 12 year old, still wet behind the ear little boy who knew no better.

All the while, this President smiles, and continues to offer the American People his intellect before his fist. That takes Class, Integrity, Moral Fiber, Intelligence and Good Judgment. After eight (8) long years of total neglect here at home, I for one am glad that we finally have a President who actually gets it - no matter how much the media wants to portray him as "not getting it."

But, like I've been saying through out this reply, I'm just a simple minded Joe, who really doesn't know his butt from a small hole in the ground.

[HoaxTrader]

yea don't blame obama dick

Aside from calling the Commander In Chief, I also call President Obama, the Janitor In Chief. Because, he's tasked with cleaning-up the mess left behind for him, after an eight (8) year long Skull & Bones frat party that only cost us what: $1 to $3 Trillion, not to mention the lives lost in the process.

The attacks on Obama, are not just illogical, irrational and untrue, they are down right comical when you know the facts. I mean, some are probably going as far, as to blame the Japanese Tsunami on the President. Or, that he should have wrapped his Superman cape around the reactor cores so they would not melt-down and lead radiation. Or, that he should have flown really fast around the earth's equator, such that the electromagnetic band created by his light speed flight, would have prevented the earth quake from happening in the first place. Or, that he should have blown a blast form his Superhuman nostrils, a wind so strong, as to push back against the strength of billions of liquid tons of water, leaving the Tsunami impotent as a result.

He's not a bird, hes definitely not a plane, no he's Failed President Barak Obama: unable to repair a deeply stalled $14 Trillion economy in a single weekend; unable to design the teleporation device that ships U.S. Troops back from Iraq and Afghanistan, such they they arrive back home with their families 1 year younger than they were before they were deployed by Bush, unable to secretly deposit $500,000 checks into the mailboxes of all the U.S. Citizens who took-out $700,000 mortgages when they could only afford a $200,000 loan and unable to make decisions on his own without the aid of puppet handles lying in the rafters above his head.

Who cares, if he can't fix all the problems faster than I can buy my cup of Joe at my favorite coffee shop by noon tomorrow - let's fire his butt on November 8th, 2012!

Yeah, that makes just about as much sense as heading due West at the rotational speed of the earth, looking for a sunrise. Or, attending a Lady GaGa concert, while expecting to hear really good vocals.

Sheeple.

[HoaxTrader]

Just my suggestion because this man being president has led the world off the cliff.

Where's the proof of that? I mean, where are the facts that support that claim? I can sit here and say that Pm Tony Blair, pushed the U.K. to the brink and point to some downward cycle within the U.K. Economy after he lead the U.K. into Iraq, right along with Bush 43.

Your bush led it to the brink,

Try: Over the brink. The economy imploded while Bush 43 was in office. The global economy began to walk in lockstep, while Bush was still in office. Millions of Americans lost their job under Bush 43, and that epic momentum carried straight through to the first 1.5 years of the Obama Administration. This notion that somehow, on the after the election, economies should turn on a dime and self-correct, is a notion that the Right Wing in the U.S. has used with success, but only amongst those clueless enough to believe it within their own party.

Nobody with half a brain, or an IQ above 4, thinks that you are going to slow-down, then pivot and then reverse an economy weighing in at a massive $14 Trillion per year. No thinking human being alive would ever consider that sensible. Yet, this is precisely what the Right Wing in the U.S., has sold its own party members and they have bought the silly notion, hook, line and sinker. It is a vastly dumb notion, yet they still believe it.

...we were expecting Obama to save the world,

And, that right there is the problem! Hes a dude! Just one dude! Just like you, or me. He does not wear a cape. He does not have x-ray vision and he cannot leap a tall building with a single bound. He can stimulate the economy with government spending, but when he does, those on the Right Wing claim he's a Tax and Spend Liberal. So, in their minds, Economic Stimulation is Socialism whenever the Government is involved. Of course, FDR can stimulate the economy through Government spending and he's a genius for having done it. Double Standard? Of course, it is. But, that's the United States of Double Standards for you. Right when FDR does it. Dead wrong when Obama does it. Yet, if FDR had not done what he did, there would be no interstate infrastructure in the United States today (we'd still be building it!)

...but its more of the same, same establishment candidates that never get a thing done for the people next to profits.

Though I do not agree with all the Presidential picks for his team, I do understand that our government and our economy are complex and highly interwoven. If President Obama, reaches too far outside the box for people to help him run things, then the Right Wing would immediately declare: Now see! We told you! He has no Executive leadership experience, just like we said during the Presidential campaigns. He picked people from outside the establishment who know absolutely NOTHING about how government works, or how interwoven our federal government is with our national economy. We told you that Obama was a neophyte and now you can see with your own eyes America!

That is precisely what the Right Wing would be saying right now. So, Obama, picked the team that knows the ins and outs of this economy, the financial markets, and the institutions that were in trouble and he tasked them with fixing the problem. But, when Obama comes out with his new Financial Re-Regulation Plan, what do Right Wing Republicans say: That he's attempting to ever-regulate the system. Well, it was the de-regulation of those same financial institutions that caused the 2008 economic implosion. So, Republicans want to have their cake and eat it to. They are very good at throwing rocks from glass houses, but they are lousy when it comes to producing ideas that work, on their own.

Look at what mostly Republican Leadership has produced under De-Regulation:

- The raping of the Middle Class component of the national economy through
- The exporting of U.S. Jobs overseas
- The homogenization of U.S. financial entities which created
- The creation of what Warren Buffet called: Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction
- Economic recessions lasting longer, or on par with economic boom periods
- Economic bubbles created out of wildly aggressive institutional and consumer debt
- The constant need for the Fed to overly assert itself with interest rate manipulation strategies

Ronald Reagan, started deregulating industry in the United States back in the 1980's. Bill Clinton, continued the de-regulate in the 1990's by signing legislation which was the brainchild of three (3) Republican Congressmen who drafted the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999.

Profits over people, learn that phrase well and vote for people based on that. Too bad every candidate is for profits over people deep down when all the rhetoric and campaign promises fade, are they putting you over profits?

On average, this is true - very true. But, so far, we've only been able to see this particular U.S. President in clean-up mode. His original agenda that he ran on during the campaign for 2008, was suddenly short circuited by the 2008 implosion. Ever since then, on the domestic front, he's been trying to move from reacting to situations, to stabilizing the economy, to now growing the economy.

That pivot, given the enormous destruction that our economy suffered, cannot and will not happen in a dime - which is what too many Americans unreasonably expected - mostly because too many Americans don't understand how our economy works; how our banking system works, how our non-banking financial systems work, how our federal reserves works, how our Congress works and how the legislative process works. So, we walk around thinking that just because the dude got elected, that all things would return to normal overnight. He clearly stated that such a rapid transformation would not happen overnight, but too few Americans were listening to that message when they should have been.

The biggest vote we could take in the U.S., would be the vote to re-educate the average U.S. Citizen on how our government and our economy works. The rest is all hyper-partisan political bull.

[newpath]

I hate to see people think Obama is having a hard time getting things back on track, he's doing exactly what the NWO is telling him to do, so who are you going to blame Obama or the people pulling his strings. But I wouldn't feel sorry for Obama either.

[newpath]

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Now, I'm rolling on the floor in uncontrollable laughter!

First, no Naval Commander worth his weight in salt and no Naval Strategic Planning Session would EVER place ANY of our vessels in the naked position of being so easily decimated by a singular missile strike from anywhere on the face of the globe. You've got to give our Naval Commanders far more credit than that. They war game this kind of stuff all the time. They know the potential adversaries capabilities and any maneuver made at sea is done with protective (defensive) posture, so as not to overly expose the fleet, or any part thereof.

Pearl Harbor???

[DickP]

Pearl harbor? Apples and Oranges.

Now you're all starting to make me laugh, like Hoax trader sifting through my comments throughout the forum lol, picking what I said motnhs/yeas ago and trying to make sound stupid, even on other topics that have nothing to do with this one.

I'm a regular Joe too, but I have opinions, I'm entitled to them, so are you, its your opinion to call me a moron, just like its my opinion to call you a board troll when I had absolutely no problem with you up until now. Man you are so smart at trading, you have a lot of knowledge and it saddens me to see you go through this forum looking for reasons to call people stupid and elevate your own intelligence for the dozens of visitors to these threads lol... they're just all so impressed.

At any rate, how can you say that our navy is "safe" wherever it goes, or can shift into safe and danger mode just by reason of where they are geographically at any given moment. Any naval commander worth his salt is ordered to go wherever he is ordered, harms way or not, I'm no a moron, I know they have dozens of ships in a flotilla to help protect the most vital ships, and air craft carrier(S) being escorted, but that's just it, no matter how many ships you have they are still in harms way.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=5642659

Mach-10 Missiles, 2000km range, not a threat to our warships?

And a major shift in nuclear stance may be laughable to you, but really underscores how it makes us look weak and is ushering in a more global network of "defense" or "offense" spread out to many nations not just ours, we're dismantling, who is proliferating? You just do not know, I do not know, we are regular let's agree on this shall we? But they give you a hint here, Obama's own NPR policy.

Iran hard at work producing anti-ship missiles designed for just that purpose. Sh*t somtimes low tech rules the day anyway:


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"Though I do not agree with all the Presidential picks for his team, I do understand that our government and our economy are complex and highly interwoven. If President Obama, reaches too far outside the box for people to help him run things, then the Right Wing would immediately declare: Now see! We told you! He has no Executive leadership experience, just like we said during the Presidential campaigns. He picked people from outside the establishment who know absolutely NOTHING about how government works, or how interwoven our federal government is with our national economy. We told you that Obama was a neophyte and now you can see with your own eyes America!"

But the magical change dust was supposed to not care what the right wing thought - in fact, wasn't it supposed to bring right and left together?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/hor...d_america.html
The recent Pew poll has found that President Obama's job approval is the most polarized for any new President in forty years.

Aside from calling the Commander In Chief, I also call President Obama, the Janitor In Chief. Because, he's tasked with cleaning-up the mess left behind for him, after an eight (8) year long Skull & Bones frat party that only cost us what: $1 to $3 Trillion, not to mention the lives lost in the process.

Again, you are making ME laugh by thinking "poor Obama" what a mess he has, let's just give him the key to the store and do whatever he has to to make it work right again. You're over reaching man, honestly, step back from the computer and take a break... OBAMA WANTED THIS JOB, not to be Janitor in Chief but to pass sweeping legislation that 9/10 of America did not ask for going beyond the health care issue to. How can any trader be for a man that (under his watch) cuts his leveraging power in half or more!?

Look at what mostly Republican Leadership has produced under De-Regulation:

- The raping of the Middle Class component of the national economy through
- The exporting of U.S. Jobs overseas
- The homogenization of U.S. financial entities which created
- The creation of what Warren Buffet called: Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction
- Economic recessions lasting longer, or on par with economic boom periods
- Economic bubbles created out of wildly aggressive institutional and consumer debt
- The constant need for the Fed to overly assert itself with interest rate manipulation strategies

Didn't a democrat start Vietnam? 50,000 KIA - 2,000,000 Civilian Deaths? Over what too? At least there's oil in Iraq. What the **** was in Vietnam?! Didn't all this de-regulation begin under Clinton with Greenspan's hands off approach begin under Clinton? He was appointed by a republican, served under two of them, but helped cost Bush the election "His handling of monetary policy in the run-up to the 1991 recession was criticized from the right as being excessively tight, and costing George H. W. Bush re-election." So, what happnened then? Massive deregulation.

But you are blaming what exactly? Bush and two wars? People love to blame Bush for everything but he was just the pin prick that popped this bubble, he didn't create it, no president did.


It makes ME laugh how off topic we have to get just to answer a simple question: Is Obamanomics going to destroy the country's ecomony? Rather we have to go back in time and blame things, waste time, waste my time having to explain this to you,someone who seems so smart at trading yet so eager to indict the system if you go through my other posts (like it seems you did) I might be on your side about.

Nobody with half a brain, or an IQ above 4, thinks that you are going to slow-down, then pivot and then reverse an economy weighing in at a massive $14 Trillion per year. No thinking human being alive would ever consider that sensible. Yet, this is precisely what the Right Wing in the U.S., has sold its own party members and they have bought the silly notion, hook, line and sinker. It is a vastly dumb notion, yet they still believe it.

Anybody that really sees throught he situation knows that it is all by design! Pure and simple, the weakening dollar, the shrinking of the middle class, all makes way for something, what exactly can only be guessed but you're telling us later on in your comments not to fall for the bi-partisan bull, but every other breathe is about how bad republicans are. I'm asking you, what's the difference between them? Nothing; very few are left not controlled by lobbyists, not given all the perks a senator and congressman expects by voting this way or that... you talk about the government, the economy, all being interwoven and we not being able to understand the complexities of it, but you have to boil it down to Republican angst over Obama winning? What would democrats be doing if a Republican was in the white house, be chopping at the Republican's knees with an axe trying to make him look bad for the next election, so don't cry and think this is something new, this dates back to before we were in diapers, political ******ination through the media on both sides throughout the history of America, that's what it's all about. Keep talking about Bush bringing us to the brink, it happened under Clinton bro, and not even because of Clinton, I can sit here and say, "oh its the democracts fault"

ITS GOOD OLD AMERICAN GREED, SYSTEMIC, WIDE SPREAD, AND MOST OF ALL LEGAL

But you'll come back and say it's because of republicans its legal or something I can see it already, you just don't get how everyone made money in this do you? Republican, Democrat, if you were in the know you saw this bubble coming from a mile away and invested elsewhere, helping fuel the many crashes and the evaporation of confidence in investing in anything American unless that company is now doing businesses in another country now too. You sound like I sounded about 8 or 9 years ago when this mess started, I was a younger man, so outraged by what Bush was doing, truly, not seeing through it that maybe even though the country was seemingly going to ****, in the end, it didn't, It was fun to be a liberal when I was younger, then I started making money

So I go back to my question, is this latest "brain fart" called Obamanomics good or bad for us? You say good, fine, that's your opinion, no need to get personal and no need to go back 60 years in the past and blame the fall of the Shah of Iran for not giving Obama an easier time as president now




Who do you have a problem with here man? Not me, look at yourself maybe that's where the problem lies... Im not here to goad you into an argument man, I put it out there but why not offer a solution as well.

All the while, this President smiles, and continues to offer the American People his intellect before his fist. That takes Class, Integrity, Moral Fiber, Intelligence and Good Judgment. After eight (8) long years of total neglect here at home, I for one am glad that we finally have a President who actually gets it - no matter how much the media wants to portray him as "not getting it."

Again, let me ask you, who is running this country? Obama? People pulling his strings? Did you know he was completely absent from the decision to help the Libyan people, Hillary Clinton led the charge to topple Gaddafi and Obama just wouldn't sink his teeth in just to look better for 2012 as to not put us in ANOTHER war, something hard to disagree with (the logic of it), but taking out Gaddaffi has been a goal for the USA for quite some time, Republican, Democrat, new born babies, we all need this man out of power, yet Obama... N/I Dudes, not interested.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/17/re...bya-wants-out/

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Now, I'm rolling on the floor in uncontrollable laughter!

First, no Naval Commander worth his weight in salt and no Naval Strategic Planning Session would EVER place ANY of our vessels in the naked position of being so easily decimated by a singular missile strike from anywhere on the face of the globe. You've got to give our Naval Commanders far more credit than that. They war game this kind of stuff all the time. They know the potential adversaries capabilities and any maneuver made at sea is done with protective (defensive) posture, so as not to overly expose the fleet, or any part thereof.

Second, North Korea, had lived under the terrifying weight each and every day, of have having 900+ nuclear weapons belonging to the United States of America, located directly across the 38th parallel in South Korea. It was not until the early 1990's, that the United States removed its more than 900 nukes from South Korean soil.

Third, North Korea, first initiated a Nuclear Test in 2006, during the George W. Bush Administration, not the Barak Obama Administration. Furthermore, NK's nuclear question, some estimate, began as early as the 1970's, depending on which intelligence entity you believe.

Lastly, it was George W. Bush, that labeled North Korea, before its Nuclear Test, one of the components of the "Axis of Evil." Not something you want to do when your potential adversary is loading up on a new Nuke diet!

Still, I'm a no-account Joe, with little experience of knowledge of these issues.




That's strange, because I thought that the Middle East began to go "****," AFTER U.S. CIA and British MI6, attempted a coup against the democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh in Iran, circa 1953/54, merely because the Prime Minister wanted to consolidate authority and control over his country's own oil supply, which would effectively remove the European controlled AIOC as the de facto Iranian oil supply kingpin.

From that point forward, down throughout the history of Western foreign policy with respect to the Middle East, and policy blunder after policy blunder, war and strife, the Anti-West Hate that we now see permeating throughout the Middle East, was born. That anti-west hate from the ME was not born on November 8th, 2008. Anti-Obama Hate, was born on that date, but not the anti-west hate we see coming from the ME.

Lastly, what's going on in Northern and North Eastern Africa right now, is considered a good thing, by most Neoconservatives - let alone those who wish to see "democracy" spread across the entire world. The People are seeking their own freedom in North and North Eastern Africa, which is in stark contrast to what we saw in Iraq. The People of Iraq, did not revolt on their own. And, they did not ask for any help from the West. We launched attacks on THEM. Without just cause and based on crock-pot of lies and deceit about WMD that did not exist - even when we knew darn well that it did not exist. BTW: North and North East Africa, is not the Middle East. But, I fully understand your point.

Having said all of that, I'm still just a simple minded Joe, who can easily be rebutted - if you try.

A note about Barak Obama:

This man took on an amazingly difficult challenge. Effectively deal with two (2) wars. End official combat operations in one and redeploy troops home safely and responsibly. Deliver on a 28+ year old failed promise to the government of Afghanistan and the Afghan People, to finally help them get to a point where they can defend themselves against the perpetual tyranny coming from now both the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Deal with either TB or AQ if and when the leak into Pakistan and, if the Pakistani Government fails to handle the matter on their own. Re-start a severely stalled economic engine that underwent the most devastating set-back in U.S. history, since 1929/32. Stop the bleeding caused by massive job loss and systemic foreclosure across the country. Rebuild a broken and dysfunctional Public Educational System. And, finally restore the lost credibility around the world, in the United States of America, that had been smashed in the dirty over the previous eight (8) long years of abject terror and crisis.

I've got to be honest with you. Only a total Mad Man would even come close to touching that job -OR- a totally committed and dedicated human being who loved his country to the point of adoration, wanted nothing more than to see his country prosper again, not merely in dollars and cents, but in character, integrity, trustworthiness, moral backbone and credibility, and a human being with the intelligence and capability to actually believe that he can get the job done. That's what the People elected on November 8th, 2008 and that is precisely what the people got. Regardless, of how many Anti-Obama Haters there are in the United States of America, who have been extremely busy Re-Writing History at ever turn and at ever single step of the way - even before the vapors dry from the mouth of the President after he speaks.

I have never seen such obvious, glaring, transparent HATE for the a sitting President having done absolutely nothing but what was right, courageous and prudent for the American People. From the outright racist comments from people like Rush Limbaugh to Newt Gingrich, to the more subtle commentary from members of Congress with respect to President Obama's "birth certificate" which clearly comes from the State of Hawaii. To the daily drum beat in the media by talking head "experts" who constantly question President Obama, like he was some kind of 12 year old, still wet behind the ear little boy who knew no better.

All the while, this President smiles, and continues to offer the American People his intellect before his fist. That takes Class, Integrity, Moral Fiber, Intelligence and Good Judgment. After eight (8) long years of total neglect here at home, I for one am glad that we finally have a President who actually gets it - no matter how much the media wants to portray him as "not getting it."

But, like I've been saying through out this reply, I'm just a simple minded Joe, who really doesn't know his butt from a small hole in the ground.

[Jones]

Despite the talented team of economists in the administration, most of the president's economic policies have done little to help the problem. And indeed, many of these policies have created even more problems than they solved.
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The flaw in the stimulus was that it was poorly targeted. Congress and the president could have gotten more stimulus from accelerating the repairing and replacing of equipment in the civilian and defense sectors. Long-term reductions in marginal tax rates of the type used by Presidents Kennedy and Reagan would also have been better than temporary tax cuts that have no positive incentive effects.

-WSJ

[Seth2]

I don't see what the big deal is, cutting payroll taxes is really progressive if you ask me and if you do it in a disproportionate way it will affect lower and middle classes but if done right would stimulate job growth. The cost of which could also be mitigated through increasing capital gains taxes which is bad for we traders but good for the country hate to say it.

[Seth2]

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I have never seen such obvious, glaring, transparent HATE for the a sitting President having done absolutely nothing but what was right, courageous and prudent for the American People. From the outright racist comments from people like Rush Limbaugh to Newt Gingrich, to the more subtle commentary from members of Congress with respect to President Obama's "birth certificate" which clearly comes from the State of Hawaii. To the daily drum beat in the media by talking head "experts" who constantly question President Obama, like he was some kind of 12 year old, still wet behind the ear little boy who knew no better.

I don't like all presidents with equal vigor since they all buy their presedencies, or cheat, all of them, I'm not racist for not liking Obama because of his position, I liked him fine before he was president, even when he was running. But I will say he is trying to do good, anyone who says he's not is wrong. I just don't like presidents, the whole idea of the presidency, they just never get things done.

[Horatio]

Democrats have opposed lifting prohibitions on energy development on almost all federal Continental Shelf sea waters since 1974, including waters along both the East and West coasts, offshore drilling in an environmentally friendly way to increase American supply of oil and help stabalize the world demand at the same time. High oil prices are the fault of the democrats for forbidding oil drilling and taxing oil companies more than before, this is just a terrible blunder. The idea that oil companies are greedy behemoths out to such you dry is a fallacy, they see very little of that $4/gallon.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...ax-breaks.html

[USMC]

http://www.therightperspective.org/2...for-americans/

Obama wants an internet ID for all Americans. Not the change I was looking for in my country!

US President Barack Obama has tapped the Commerce Department over federal security agencies to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official announced Friday.

White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt, who made the announcement, told attendees at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research that “we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this” as opposed to national security agencies, adding that “I don’t have to get a credential if I don’t want to.”

[FreedomRules]

Saying someone is a failed politician is not the same thing as saying they're a terrible person or even, necessarily, a poor president. It means they're bad at the game of politics -- an unfortunate, but necessary, skill for any leader. A true presidential politician articulates a vision for America, wins over the public support and then gets the Congress to follow him because everyone wants to be on the winning team. And by that standard, Barack Obama has not met his objectives. How do you know? Because after two years in office, he needs the liberal devout to engage in an Internet campaign to explain what he's even done.
Like Hoax Trader.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-wtf-...#ixzz1HfWtHmY6

[ChartWizQ]

A note about Barak Obama:

This man took on an amazingly difficult challenge. Effectively deal with two (2) wars. End official combat operations in one and redeploy troops home safely and responsibly. Deliver on a 28+ year old failed promise to the government of Afghanistan and the Afghan People, to finally help them get to a point where they can defend themselves against the perpetual tyranny coming from now both the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Deal with either TB or AQ if and when the leak into Pakistan and, if the Pakistani Government fails to handle the matter on their own. Re-start a severely stalled economic engine that underwent the most devastating set-back in U.S. history, since 1929/32. Stop the bleeding caused by massive job loss and systemic foreclosure across the country. Rebuild a broken and dysfunctional Public Educational System. And, finally restore the lost credibility around the world, in the United States of America, that had been smashed in the dirty over the previous eight (8) long years of abject terror and crisis.

I agree. people rarely give credit where credit is due.

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Saying someone is a failed politician is not the same thing as saying they're a terrible person or even, necessarily, a poor president. It means they're bad at the game of politics -- an unfortunate, but necessary, skill for any leader. A true presidential politician articulates a vision for America, wins over the public support and then gets the Congress to follow him because everyone wants to be on the winning team. And by that standard, Barack Obama has not met his objectives. How do you know? Because after two years in office, he needs the liberal devout to engage in an Internet campaign to explain what he's even done.
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Very original.

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Pearl Harbor???

On this you have to admit that the safest possible place a naval commander thought he could be was a home port like Hawaii, especially with the tonnage present in the harbor it would be foolish to attack it, but Japan did, and it almost obliterated the pacific fleet.

[Dave_Programmer]

Im a dem but Obama is a huge flip flopper. He promised to be on the side of unions but was AWOL when the Wisconsin teachers unions needed help against Republicans. This doesn't surprise me because he picks and chooses his battles politically not b/c of what's in his heart, which ergo, is what all presidents do so, no change we can believe in from Obama just yet

[DrFx]

Try: Over the brink. The economy imploded while Bush 43 was in office. The global economy began to walk in lockstep, while Bush was still in office.

Obama says that Republicans need to get the the tax cuts for the richest Americans to so that would help keep the tax cuts for the middle class that Obama wants, but the Democrats had not been such idiots from the beginning they wouldn’t have to be doing this. Republicans are still the black hats here, but Obama and the Dems are the dumb sheriff that let them get away with holding up the train in the first place. Obama says we have to give in to the hostage takers–but the first rule of hostage negotiation is that you don’t give in, because that will just encourage them to take hostages every time. And Obama says we’ll fight them in two years–seriously next time, though he was supposed to be serious this time–and the fact is, in two years, the story will be exactly the same as it is now, only the Republicans will be stronger and more emboldened by then.

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Saying someone is a failed politician is not the same thing as saying they're a terrible person or even, necessarily, a poor president. It means they're bad at the game of politics -- an unfortunate, but necessary, skill for any leader. A true presidential politician articulates a vision for America, wins over the public support and then gets the Congress to follow him because everyone wants to be on the winning team. And by that standard, Barack Obama has not met his objectives. How do you know? Because after two years in office, he needs the liberal devout to engage in an Internet campaign to explain what he's even done.
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You know Jack!

Obama has to battle the all powerful, ever-scheming, lying, manipulative non stop right wing media campaigns, the blue dog democrats that are very unreliable in Congress, and not to mention the utterly unrealistic expectations of the Obama supporters he promised so much two, two wars and an economic crisis the extent of which this country had not seen in almost 80 years.

[Guts]

Obama has done so much that you just do not hear about, the media highlights every disaster or near disaster but never mentions things like this, a great list of his accomplishments that aren't fluff and aren't factitious in any way.

Space Exploration and Space Station

BROAD POLICY
Worked with international allies on International Space Station
Opened door to space arms treaty.,
Used the private sector to improve spaceflight
Supported commercial access to outer space
FUNDING
Increased spending to prepare for longer space missions
TARGETED ACTIONS
Added another Space Shuttle flight
Partnered to enhance the potential of the International Space Station
Used the International Space Station for fundamental biological and physical research
Determined whether International Space Station can operate after 2016
Conducted robust research and development on future space missions
DOD opened access to social media sites (Air Force News).
DOD will film all interrogations.
Cracked down on tax cheats (exec order).
Dismantled the Minerals Management Service, cutting ties between industry and government.
Established the USA.gov portal connecting people to the services they require
Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act.,
White House voluntary disclosure policy – visitor access records/450,000 records to date
Taxes

BROAD POLICY
Adopted Economic Substance tax doctrine.
Cracked down on tax cheats (Exec Order).
TARGETED ACTIONS TAX CREDITS/REDUCTIONS:
Temporarily suspended taxes on unemployment benefits.
Established consumer tax credit for plug-in hybrid cars.,
$60 billion in spending and tax incentives for renewable and clean energy.
Tax breaks to promote public transit.
Extended and indexed the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch.
Small business teax credits for the cost of health insurance for employees beginning 1/1/10 (HCR).
2-year temporary tax credit up to $1 billion to encourage investment in new disease prevention and treatment therapies (HCR).
Income floor for medical expense deductions for individuals age 65 and older (and their spouses) remains at 7.5% through 2016; Raise 7.5% floor to 10% for all others (1/1/13) (HCR)
Health insurance premium tax credits and subsidies available for those with income up to 4x the federal poverty level (1/1/14) (HCR)
Accelerated tax benefits for charitable cash contributions for Haiti earthquake relief.
TARGETED ACTIONS TAX ASSESSMENTS/INCREASES:
Made Haiti donations tax deductible for 2009.
Increased penalty tax of 20% on nonequal distributions from HSA and MSA (1/1/11) (HCR)
Income tax rates for the highest earners will change from 35 to 39.6 percent. (1/1/11) (HCR)
Capital gains tax for the highest earners will change from 15 to 20 percent. (1/1/11) (HCR)
2.3% excise tax on manufacturers and importers of certain medical devices (1/1/13) (HCR)
For high earners the capital gains tax will rise from 20 to 23.8 percent. (1/1/13) (HCR)
A 2.35 percent Medicare payroll tax only on wages over the threshold (an increase of 0.9 percent) (1/1/13) (HCR)
Tax increase for corporations with assets of at least $1 billion (1/1/14) (HCR)
40% Excise tax on Cadillac health plans (2018) (HCR)
TARGETED ACTIONS TAX ENFORCEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION:
Closed offshore tax safe havens, tax credit loopholes . ,
Employers will report the value of health benefits on W-2s (1/1/11) (HCR)
RESULTS
Tax bills hit lowest level since 1950.
Tax refunds up 10 percent due to stimulus.
Transparency and Accountability

BROAD POLICY
Mandate to follow the standards of the Freedom of Information Act (exec order).
Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible.
Unveiled “open government” plans.
Federal IT Dashboard, “a website enabling federal agencies & the public to view details of information technology”.
TARGETED ACTIONS
Released presidential records.
Imposed limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House.
Imposed limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration.
Closed lobbyist loopholes with respect to the Recovery Act
Banned lobbyist gifts to executive employees.
Provided more town halls and media access than previous administration.,
Required health plans to disclose how much of the premium goes to patient care.
Established an independent health institute to provide accurate and objective information.
Required new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliations or contributions.,
Established a uniform standard for declassifying, safeguarding and classifying national security information (12/29/2009).
Created a national declassification center.
DOD opened access to social media sites (Air Force News).
DOD will film all interrogations.
Cracked down on tax cheats (exec order).
Dismantled the Minerals Management Service, cutting ties between industry and government.
Established the USA.gov portal connecting people to the services they require
Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act.,
RESULTS
White House voluntary disclosure policy – visitor access records/450,000 records to date
Recovery, Progress and Change

Federal deficit shrank 8% year-on-year.
Financial reform has ‘strongest consumer financial protections in history.’
Wall Storm designed to end taxpayer bailouts.
Six-month report card: exports in the first four months of 2010 were 17 percent higher than in the first four months of 2009 .
Job loss exploded under Bush, improves under Obama.
682,370 jobs created under the Recovery Act Between January 1 — March 31,2010.
New jobless claims tumble.
March payrolls surge by 162,000.
March jobs data showed biggest growth in three years .ref
U.S. economy added 90,000 jobs in April .
Jobless rates dropped in 34 states and DC (AP).
New-home sales saw biggest jump in 47 years.,
Foreclosures fall 2%.
U.S. Economy: Manufacturing grew by most since 2004.
U.S. GDP up 3.2% in first quarter, consumer spending showed biggest rise in 3 years .
Orders for most durable goods rose.
Wholesale inventories and sales rose in March.
Consumer confidence highest in 2 years.
Start-Up activity now higher than it was during the dotcom boom.
Study: almost 5 million charging stations by 2015.
Wind power growth up 39% due to government stimulus.
Poll: world’s opinion of U.S. has “improved sharply” under Obama.ref
47 nations rise to Obama’s challenge at US nuke summit and agree to four years of non-proliferation efforts.
U.S. jail population declined for first time in decades.